This post will not be about how outrageous and backwards the laws in United Arab Emirates are. Sure, arresting someone for sex outside marriage is unlibertarian. However, this part of discussion is well covered by pretty much any newspaper in Norway right now.
This post will be a milder, gentler version of this post:
http://eivindberge.blogspot.no/2013/07/feminist-rape-gets-reality-check-in.html (this post talks more about the injustice men face, and more about justice in general, so I didn’t want to repeat everything that has already been said. Therefore my post is more about women and less about men).
The current outrage over the arrest and conviction of Marte Dalelv in Dubai (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57594755/marte-deborah-dalelv-norwegian-womans16-month-sentence-in-dubai-after-rape-claim-draws-outrage/ ) made me think of something I have forgotten.
When I was 12 years old, I moved from Russia to Norway. One of the things I noticed is how much safer Norway appeared to be. In Russia, even a grown man would not walk late alone. In Norway, I could do it as a teenager.
However, when I came back to Russia for vacations, my father explicitly warned me about people who, through living in safer countries, lose their sense of vigilance and end up dead or in trouble, because the rules that apply in a safe country, do not apply in Russia.
One example turned out to be my friend, who like me moved to a similarly safe country (Germany). She visited her relatives in Russia. She was walking home, alone and somewhat under the influence. A stranger talked to her, then hit her over the head and dragged her into a bush. He didn’t rape her, but threatened to kill her and took her jewelry. She escaped him after he turned around. She ran to a cop car and asked the cops to arrest the guy who just hit her and robbed her, but they simply drove her away to the police station, where her story was scrutinized. They even thought the strangulation bruise on her neck were a weird birthmark, but then sorta took it seriously and investigated it. However, the criminal was gone, and he’d never be as easily found as he was right after my friend ran out of those bushes. My friend forgot, through her stay in Germany, that walking alone at night is not safe in Russia at all, and that Russian cops are underpaid, unenthusiastic, and often even dangerous to the general population.
But such an effect doesn’t only apply to situations with real danger. To illustrate that, another example will be shown, which is myself. One time, I was 19 and taking a flight with my mother. I subconsciously trusted her and thought she was watching the time. Turns out she wasn’t, and we ended up delaying our plane by half an hour and pissing everyone off. I trusted authority and that this authority will make everything alright, even if I don’t take any precautions about anything.
I believe safe countries like Norway turn us into something like those helpless fainting goats. When we see real danger, we keep acting like there is no danger. We don’t fight, flight or take precautions. Norway acts like a second mother. It takes care of us when we need welfare, or when we drink and someone takes advantage of that.
I think something similar happened with Marte Dalelv. According to the sources, she and her coworkers drunk a lot, and she asked one of them to take her to her hotel room. Instead, he took her to his hotel room. Her reaction:
“I just thought I need to calm this situation down,” she told CBS News. “So I walked in with him, and I sat down and I went to drink my bottle of water. I thought that I’ll finish this bottle, and then I’ll excuse myself and find my room by myself. And that’s the last thing I remember. The following morning, I woke up on my stomach, my clothes were off, and I was being raped when I woke up.”
She then went to the lobby and asked them to call the police. They asked her if she really wanted to. She said yes:
“Of course I want to call the police,” she said. “That is the natural reaction where I am from.“
As a result, both her and the alleged rapist were given jail time for sex outside marriage and consumption of alcohol. She got 16 months, compared to his 13, because she was also charged with lying about rape. The Norwegian politicians react:
“”This verdict flies in the face of our notion of justice,” Norway’s foreign minister, Espen Barth Eide, told the NTB news agency, calling it “highly problematic from a human rights perspective.””
I think this is the best case that illustrates how badly Norwegian mindset lets women down. And not just mindset, but specifically feminism. Look:
- Drinking in Norway is socially accepted, and because it is so accepted, it seems benign. “You should be able to get drunk, fall asleep wherever you want and not be sexually assaulted”, they say, even though drunk-in-public is an inherently unsafe situation.
- Feminists tell women that men have the same sexuality as them. If you feel no desire, your male coworker probably feels the same and sees you totally asexually. It’s ok to enter a hotel room with him, even when you’re incapacitated and becoming even more so by the minute.
- If you drink, and then wake up while someone is having sex with you, it’s obviously rape, even if you don’t remember how you ended up there and what role you had to play in it.
- Point 3 is rape, and cops will correct the injustice in your favor.
It’s almost as if they are trying to turn women into dumb defenseless deer?.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN6TWzAGFhU
To finish, I will talk a little about the human rights angle of this.
I love the reaction of the foreign minister. “This flies in the face of our notion of justice”. Yes, not immediately agreeing it was a rape and jailing the man totally flies in the face of Norwegian notion of justice! He also said it as “highly problematic from a human rights perspective.” And while he’s right about some things, Norwegian justice is highly problematic from a human rights perspective too. It’s hypocritical of him to say that, as long as it’s ok to jail men based only on woman’s word here. Having said that, I think they should just let both of them go. Word vs. word cases aren’t courtroom material.