Actually, sharia law for rape is not so bad…

…compared to the Norwegian rape law.

Both Marte Davelv and the man accused of rape were sentenced to jail for sex outside of marriage, and consuming alcohol. Now, both were pardoned and let free.

I’m not for jailing people for sex or alcohol, but I’m less sure about how I feel about Dubai’s rape law. If I remember right, they accept a confession from the rapist, or 4 male witnesses as proof. Sounds barbaric?

Well, the more I think about it, the more reasonable it seems compared to what we have here in Norway. I will analyse and compare.

1)      Proof requirements

First of all, we absolutely need proof of rape, for there to be a conviction. That immediately makes negligent “rape” and drunk regret “rape” irrelevant to prosecuting. If you didn’t even know you were raping, there isn’t likely any evidence of the act being externally any different from a consensual sex act. And if the people were very drunk, then by the nature of the blackout no one knows for sure what truly happened.

As for real rape, that too needs to be proven. But how to prove it? At one point they were testing for vaginal tearing. That sort of damage was proved happen during regular sex, making it only useful for establishing that intercourse has occurred (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2123246/Voluntary-sex-lead-injuries-rape-new-study-shows.html )

Physical injuries can be faked: (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/california-prison-psychiatrist-accused-faking-rape-article-1.989640 )

Other possible evidence could be that he denies even having sex with her, but there is DNA (eh, semen) evidence.

And there could be witnesses. This is where the law agrees.  The only problem I have with this is that a man with 4 male enemies can be put in jail, if they conspire against him and hire some woman to be his rape accuser. While their law could involve more reasonable things as proof, it’s a lot less insane than the Norwegian law, which doesn’t need any proof in practice. In word against word cases, they evaluate how credible the accuser seems, and convict from that. In Dubai, at least you need a lot more people than the accuser to make that happen.

2)      Effect on society

Norwegian law does all it can to encourage false accusers to come forward. It also does its best to give women a false sense of security (https://emmatheemo.wordpress.com/2013/07/21/does-norwegian-feminism-give-women-a-false-sense-of-security-case-of-marte-dalelv/ ) and a belief that if something happens to your drunk-in-public self, it’s not even slightly your fault. The Dubai law discourages both false accusations and careless behavior.

3)      Punishment

Norwegian law gives you maybe 4 years in jail for both real rape and fake rape. In Dubai, you can even potentially be put to death for rape, but then it is likely for real rape, unless you had 4 men and 1 woman conspire against you. High proof requirements, high punishment, I kinda like it.

4)      Gender equality

Last but not least, the Dubai laws will put both in jail in case of a stereotypical alcohol-induced “rape”. In Norway, they like to jail the man.

So, in a way, Norway is quite a lot more barbaric than Dubai is, and I have to laugh each time some Norwegian white knight says Dubai lives in the middle ages.

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3 Responses to Actually, sharia law for rape is not so bad…

  1. anon says:

    Actually the laws under Islam/sharia are drafted in a such a way as to make rape almost impossible to prove. The most probable outcome is that the victim ends up being charged for adultery if she is married or fornication if she is single. It does not matter if if the victim was forced [raped] or not. All that counts is that sexual contact took place.

    Proof

    What exactly is the likelihood of there been four witnesses to a rape? Next to nil! To make matters worse, a woman’s testimony is deemed to be worth half that of a man. The reasoning being: women are considered deficient in mind, lacking reason, emotional etc.

    What would be the likelihood for a rapist to confess to his crime? Next to nil!

    Now in the West DNA tests are usually carried out as a mean to prove allegations of rape. There is also a due process Moreover, unlike sharia the laws are not designed to further victimize or punish the victim. All allegations of rape are taken seriously and have to be proven beyond all reasonable doubt. A false allegation for rape is also punished usually with a prison sentence and given plenty of media coverage.

    “So, in a way, Norway is quite a lot more barbaric than Dubai is ”

    Not quite, not by even by a long shot! The laws may not be perfect but to compare them to the barbaric sharia, perverted notion of law is beyond absurd.

    • emmatheemo says:

      “Actually the laws under Islam/sharia are drafted in a such a way as to make rape almost impossible to prove”

      Rape, by its nature, IS notoriously hard to prove on its own.

      “All allegations of rape are taken seriously and have to be proven beyond all reasonable doubt.”
      Here, they are taken seriously even if there is nothing but he said-she said. Why should cases such as these be taken to court?

      “A false allegation for rape is also punished usually with a prison sentence and given plenty of media coverage.”
      Lol! No, it’s not punished with a prison sentence, it’s redefined as real rape, and the accused runs the risk of being punished. You technically don’t have to lie you got raped, just pick any sexual encouter you didn’t like, and say “he should have known” you didn’t want it.

      “Not quite, not by even by a long shot!”
      Punishing people without evidence is not barbaric?

      I’m not saying Sharia law is so great, that’s not the point of the post. I’m saying it compares favorably in certain ways.

  2. KK says:

    I am a strong, feminine/masculine woman. I a independent with strong values and spiritual moral convictions.

    Ignorant people often think I am gay or bisexual. The reality is that not only am I I not attracted to women, I don’t care for their company.

    They are gossipy, two-faced, backbiting
    and insecure.

    I love men! Good strong decent men who understand that I can do with them or without them.
    They gossip, backbite, are two-f

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