I Have a Sex Tape

Now that I got your attention, I will tell you what this is all about.

A while ago, I argued that revenge porn laws are not needed for several very good reasons. One of them (and FAR from the only one) is the fact that sex tapes only prove that you have sex, and make home movies – things most western adults do nowadays. It’s not to be an object of shame. We can’t have sexual liberation and institutionalized sexual taboos at the same time – it makes no sense.

Well, recently I noticed how feminists, my ideological opponents, use porn as art or activism. More precisely, the mattress girl, Emma Sulkowicz. And I thought – why not do the same? She promotes the feminist definition of rape with her sex tape. I will promote resistance against revenge porn laws with mine. I’ll live my arguments, so to speak.

Here you go: https://thepiratebay.la/torrent/11844875/Sexy_amateur_Nataliya_-_two_scenes_in_4K

https://thepiratebay.la/torrent/11833025/Nataliya_does_porn

For other arguments against revenge porn laws, read this: Thoughts on Revenge Porn Laws

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53 Responses to I Have a Sex Tape

  1. I’m not clicking those links, but I thought this was funny, “We can’t have sexual liberation and institutionalized sexual taboos at the same time – it makes no sense.” So…you haven’t been to America, have you? We are all about sexual liberation and total repression. Puritans and perverts, sex in your face 24/7, versus all sex is bad, all going on at the same time. No, it doesn’t make any sense, but I assure you, it’s possible. 😉

  2. Ashley says:

    Revenge porn has way too much power, and for what? I got into a discussion about this with someone else just a couple days ago, and she was all up in arms because she’s a lawyer and someone leaking her sex tape would get her fired. I pretty much said, “Well don’t make any enemies.” Kim K is rich and famous as hell, mostly thanks to a sex tape. Yet we have other professional women whose lives who can be ruined with the same thing? I say, go ahead and leak mine. I might share my fortunes, if you play your cards right.

  3. Clarence says:

    Well:
    While I agree with most of your philosophy about sexual shaming, you might come to regret this video. But it was courageous of you to do, and you’ll never get any shit or shaming about it from me.

    There’s really not much to say, except thank you. I hope you and the big E continue strong 🙂

  4. Exfernal says:

    Well, why not imitate people you would rather not associate with? Perfectly logical.

  5. Andrew says:

    Emma – you seem smart and basically sensible –
    why put this stuff out there?
    Some of us are easily snared by sin.

  6. Andrew says:

    Sorry – I mean Nataliya.

  7. Liz says:

    “Well, recently I noticed how feminists, my ideological opponents, use porn as art or activism. More precisely, the mattress girl, Emma Sulkowicz. And I thought – why not do the same? She promotes the feminist definition of rape with her sex tape. I will promote resistance against revenge porn laws with mine.”

    Did you notice what happened after she released that porn tape? She lost credibility and people started to remove their support. That’s probably not a good example to emulate.
    I’m not sure how releasing a sex tape promotes the resistance to revenge porn laws, since you’ve obviously, categorically and irrefutably agreed to create and release this tape. That’s your choice, there’s no “revenge porn” aspect to it whatsoever.

    • Liz says:

      Issues of personal privacy are a big deal to me. Maybe it’s the nurse aspect. We weren’t even permitted to use cell phones on the job due to patient privacy issues. It’s a basic human right, or should be. I don’t even like it when they show dead or injured people on camera without consent. The Geneva Conventions protects POWs from “public curiosity”…not just abuse, torture, and so forth, but public curiosity. So even captured soldiers are entitled to legal protections against public ridicule and display.

      • There is a difference between shared secrets in such professions as doctors, nurses, lawyers and priests, and unofficially shared secrets and private issues between friends, lovers and similar. The latter are not like the former. You can’t make life socially risk-free by making enough laws, nor should you want to.

    • Exfernal says:

      There is the broader issue to consider – namely, ‘the right to be forgotten’:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_be_forgotten
      Its justification is very shaky, in my opinion.

      • Liz says:

        “Also, I don’t see what that hypothetical girl in repressive cultures has to do with revenge porn laws in sexually liberated countries. She’s there, we’re here. What we film here, has nothing to do with her.”

        I’ve known a whole, whole lot of people in my life. Many were from countries with such policies. Many went back to those countries…either for vacation to visit relatives, or back to live. A tape like that could be a death sentence to them. Stuff on the internet is ubiquitous and everywhere. It’s best to consider that when one is considering legalities.

      • Well, then that person is better off not posing for porn videos, are they? As you said, sex tapes are such a personal matter, and if you think it’s too private and bad for you, just don’t do it.

      • It doesn’t take a sex tape for a repressed culture to decide to kill someone. Should we take everything they might get violent about into account when making laws? Should we cater to that? Open a massive window for abuse and put lots of innocent men in danger of being punished by this law, but aid girls going back to repressed countries somewhat? Is a law good, if it explicitly allows for sacrifice of one group, just so it can save another? You don’t agree with that when it comes to rape accusations/”yes means yes”/guilty of rape until proven innocent, so why believe it here?

      • Liz says:

        Eeek…messed up on the reply. Meant to respond below.

    • I think you misunderstood. I released the tape because one reason for revenge porn laws is special treatment legally given to sexual matters over other equally private and potentially embarrassing matters. I’m only saying that we cannot pretend to be legally sexually liberate people, but still legally uphold sexual taboos. Either we agree sex is nothing to be ashamed about and it should be treated the same way as any other private, non-official issue, or we agree that yes, sex is special, and start escorting women wherever they go, and make “stealing” a woman’s virginity a crime. I’m pointing out feminist hypocrisy. By releasing a tape, I’m providing an example. An example of how having a sex tape is nothing special.

      And Emma Sulkowicz had little credibility to begin with. She’s a likely just a feminist rape accuser, using her feminist definition of rape to accuse a man of rape. She’s a part of the problem I spoke about earlier – hypocrisy. The desire to be sexually liberated without the consequences of feeling bad sometimes, or regretting things. I thought I could do better, and did. My sex tape is morally consistent, and consistency is never bad.

      • Exfernal says:

        Well, it reminds me of this episode of South Park:

      • Exfernal says:

        As for technical issues, there are two: if that would become a hobby of yours (I don’t think so, but you never know) consider getting a more stable platform for your camera, like a tripod for example. Even a head-strap mounted camera would produce less shaky footage than a hand-held one.
        Another one is the resulting video size. There are hassle- and cost-free methods of compressing it significantly without much quality loss. Even I could do that easily in my copy of Free Download Manager that I use to grab ‘stuff’ from the Internet, but that would defeat its purpose to do that after downloading, not before (only where it would count).
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Download_Manager

      • Well thanks for the tips 😀 I appreciate it.

      • Liz says:

        “Either we agree sex is nothing to be ashamed about and it should be treated the same way as any other private, non-official issue, or we agree that yes, sex is special, and start escorting women wherever they go, and make “stealing” a woman’s virginity a crime. I’m pointing out feminist hypocrisy. By releasing a tape, I’m providing an example. An example of how having a sex tape is nothing special.”

        I don’t understand what one thing has to do with the other. Sex can be an intimate, private, special, and personal act without the need to escort women wherever they go or punishing consentual sex with an unmarried virgin. By releasing the tape, you might be asserting that this is not a particularly private act to you (or this particular act, at this particular time which you chose was not) but that has no bearing on others.

        Is it legal to take video footage of a person in a private bathroom and distribute it without their knowledge on fetish porn sites? Becky was visiting Sandy and Sandy left a camera behind the hand lotion bottle. See Becky remove her tampon, see Becky epilate her personal area…right here folks. Hey! Becky’s kids and friends of her kids! Here is Lestor’s mom waxing her snatch.

      • “.. but that has no bearing on others.”

        Of course, you’re absolutely right – personally, my habits have nothing to do with other people’s personal behavior and feelings. But legally, it’s a whole another matter. Either we’re legally sexually liberated, or we aren’t.

        Your Becky&Sandy example is interesting, but it wasn’t what we originally talked about, and what revenge porn laws usually cover. I’m not sure what I think about that one, I’ll give you that. Whether you have an expectation of privacy in someone else’s house, even if it’s a bathroom, can be discussed. But it isn’t revenge porn. This is what you said about revenge porn, in response to me:

        ““But how do you know the person did not initially consent to having the tape be distributed, and then changed their mind (due to a breakup, regret, or wanting revenge)? Just gonna take the accuser’s word for it?”

        Again, for the case of something that was taped when there was a reasonable expectation of privacy, and then disseminated to the public, verbal consent doesn’t count (excepting if the verbal consent was documented on the actual disseminated taped material, that would obviously be proof of verbal consent).
        Something like this should be written agreement, just like the case with my e mail distribution list, or a conversation taped in private.”

        Do you still agree a woman should be able to put a man in jail for her porn distribution, because she changed her mind, or did you rethink that?

      • Liz says:

        Furthermore, everyone’s situation is different. Something like that might have catastrophic consequences for one family or one person’s profession, and nothing at all for another. Some innocent girl waxing her snatch on a fetish porn site without her knowledge that anything had been taped might get her burned alive in some cultures. “That’s illegal!” you say (or should be, it isn’t everywhere)…true in most cases, but it’s a lot easier to just set up some rules that prohibit a person taping and distributing the material rather than dealing with every potential consequence after distribution.

      • As I said in the other comment, you don’t just want to criminalize taping someone in your house’s bathroom, you want to make every porn distribution illegal unless a written document is written where all the filmed parties agree to the distribution. Or did you change your mind about that now? I hope so. Because otherwise, what you wanted is for my boyfriend to be in jail for distributing my tape without written consent, during the time when the tape was out there, but I did not say anything about it. At least, if I decided to dump him and take revenge by saying he distributed the tape against my consent. If I totally misunderstood you, and you did not mean to say that the accused is guilty until proven innocent (with a written document), please say so, and I will apologize.

      • Also, I don’t see what that hypothetical girl in repressive cultures has to do with revenge porn laws in sexually liberated countries. She’s there, we’re here. What we film here, has nothing to do with her. I’m not arguing every country should do that. I just think the western feminist ones should be consistent.

      • Liz says:

        “Do you still agree a woman should be able to put a man in jail for her porn distribution, because she changed her mind, or did you rethink that?”

        I think either a woman or man (a girl could do this too, but it’s far less likely…say the guy has a micro penis and she wants to publicly humiliate him and/or use the secretly made tape for extortion purposes) cannot use the tape for distribution unless consent is clear. It COULD be verbal, but it would have to be made on tape (I didn’t watch your video, so I don’t know….but you’ve obviously stated it’s fine here).

      • Ok, whoever gets to the accusing first, gets to put the other person in jail. Got it. Also, yes, I said the tape is ok here, but there were several months where the tape was out by my unofficial permission, and my your logic I could have withdrawn the permission, no?..

      • Liz says:

        This is not a random act of God, it’s a deliberate act to disseminate a porn tape on the internet. The amout of effort it would require to receive any sort of verifiable agreement for that dissemination (could be a text, could be on the tape itself…ANYTHING), is FAR LESS than the amount of effort it takes to create and load that tape onto the internet. One person in this case, is harmed by a deliberate and foreseeable act from another person. There’s no deniability whatsoever that the tape is out there (unlike a consensual versus nonconsensual untaped sex act in private), the person who put it out there has to prove the other person agreed.

      • Liz says:

        Example: If I go into my friend’s home and see something I want to steal and take it, I cannot claim this person gave it to me unless there is something in writing or on tape or text (or bill of sale) indicating that is the case.

      • Lol, no offence, but I think you talked yourself into a corner. If what you say is true, anyone who gave you a gift can claim you stole it, and then God help you if you can’t produce written proof that it isn’t so!..

      • Liz says:

        I could enter my neighbor’s home at this moment (I have a key) and steal their jewelry and claim “they said I could have it!”. It’s their stuff, it’s in my possession, they want it back…the burden of proof is on me.

      • No, the burden of proof is on the one claiming you’re a criminal. I don’t understand why you’re reversing the burden of proof from the accuser to the accused in so many issues now, Liz. Maybe you feel it’s oppressive for the victim to have to prove their victimhood? But it isn’t right.

      • Liz says:

        On the flip side, maybe they DID say I could have it. Now they don’t want me to have it, and they call the police. My only recourse is to give it back (in this case, a tape distributed on the internet is non-rescindable). They would be bad people to set me up, but this does not change the burden of proof. Likewise…I could be a bad person and destroy their home (I could claim they wanted me to, they could claim they didn’t). That’s why extenuating evidence matters with “friendly” claims of culpability.

      • Asking someone to destroy your house is not a normal, reasonable occurrence, like exchange of gifts, sex or video sharing. But even in that case, you have to prove they have done it without permission, not to put them in jail automatically. Then the accused and their lawyer can perhaps say “My friend was just asking me to help rebuild the house and break his walls. Now he’s accusing me of vandalism”. The jury will decide if the accused is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt or not.

      • Liz says:

        One. Last. Post.
        We could switch the scenario up in any number of ways. At the end of the day, you were both placing each other in one another’s trust when you made the tape. By not having anything verifiable that would indicate your agreement (either on a web post, text, on the tape, anything whatsoever) he was placing his trust in you not to cause him harm, and you were placing your trust in him not to cause you harm (in theory….though in this case you don’t seem to care and this does not impact you personally in any way).

      • Right. You shouldn’t have sex or film sex tapes with people unless you trust them. That I can agree with.

      • Liz says:

        ” I could have withdrawn the permission, no?..”
        No. Once permission is given it is given.

        But if (hypothetically) you were a horrible person and wanted to bring him to court, he would have no evidence that to present to the court that you gave your permission. On the flip side, he would be a horrible person to post it without your permission.

      • Liz says:

        “Lol, no offence, but I think you talked yourself into a corner. If what you say is true, anyone who gave you a gift can claim you stole it, and then God help you if you can’t produce written proof that it isn’t so!..”
        What would the law say? Think about it.

      • Liz says:

        I’m must assume no one has ever driven off with your car and claimed you gave it to them. Either that or the laws in Sweden are a lot different regarding grande theft auto. This happened to me, and I assure you it’s a felony.

      • Yeah, I don’t think anyone will believe that excuse if you take a stranger’s car. Just because the burden of proof is on the accuser, doesn’t mean anyone can get away with anything.

      • Liz says:

        “Yeah, I don’t think anyone will believe that excuse if you take a stranger’s car. Just because the burden of proof is on the accuser, doesn’t mean anyone can get away with anything.”

        It wasn’t a stranger, Emma. How could I prove I didn’t give him my car? In all seriousness..this actually happened. I can tell you the loss of a car would be far far less a personal loss to me (100 fold less) than the release of some hypothetical sex tape online. We’re coming at this from different angles. The law needs to encompass all situations…the hypothetical secretly made sex tape that one person never agreed to make, the hypothetical sex tape both parties agreed to make and the hypothetical sex tape both parties agreed to release.

      • Liz says:

        Guess my car should’ve belong to that guy who sped away with it on spring break then. He had the keys and I couldn’t prove I didn’t give him my car.

      • Liz says:

        The key word there is “reasonable”. Beyond REASONABLE doubt.

      • Sure. I never said anything else.

  8. slacker says:

    “We can’t have sexual liberation and institutionalized sexual taboos at the same time – it makes no sense.”

    Why not? human beings are walking contradictions why wouldn’t our society be a reflection of that? Furthermore wouldn’t the the meaning of sexual liberation and what counts as taboo vary greatly from person to person? Then again you’re talking about law, so a black and white definition really would be ideal. I don’t know, I’m American so I guess I’m just used to hearing twenty different opinions on what a healthy sex life entails everyday…and now I feel like I’m rambling.

    One last thing, what exactly is your biggest problem with revenge porn laws? Does the inconsistency of it annoy or do you think it has the potential to be just another weapon in feminism’s ever expanding arsenal of bullshit to use against men? I think some people have legitimate arguments about the right to privacy but at the same time such laws seem like they would be easy to abuse.

    • “Why not?”

      Because the government (that is, the law) is held to a higher standard of behavior and consistency.

      “Furthermore wouldn’t the the meaning of sexual liberation and what counts as taboo vary greatly from person to person? ”

      You said it yourself – the law should be pretty straightforward.

      “I’m American so I guess I’m just used to hearing twenty different opinions on what a healthy sex life entails everyday…”
      I can sympathize. But I won’t tell you what sex life you should lead, I only talk about laws here.

      “the potential to be just another weapon in feminism’s ever expanding arsenal of bullshit to use against men”

      Yes, that is what I think it is. I want privacy too, but I don’t believe sending your nudes to a guy and then seeing them on a fetish site is a privacy violation one needs to fight against and involve the government in.

  9. caamib says:

    I admire Eivind Berge’s writings a lot but wouldn’t exactly want to see him having sex.

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